{"id":2310,"date":"2016-11-14T16:52:46","date_gmt":"2016-11-14T05:52:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/cryonicsservicesaustralia.com\/csa\/?p=2310"},"modified":"2017-01-17T10:49:53","modified_gmt":"2017-01-16T23:49:53","slug":"some-questions-on-standbytransportation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/cryonicsservicesaustralia.com\/csa\/some-questions-on-standbytransportation\/","title":{"rendered":"Some questions on Standby\/Transportation"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Some good questions were raised about what we are doing with standby and transportation.\u00a0 I try to answer them below.\u00a0 This is the summary I posted on the CAA site.\u00a0 I will expand and update over time.<\/p>\n<p><strong>1. When do you expect to be up and running?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I am hoping for about mid 2017, but some of the items still\u00a0to purchase will cost serious money, so it may depend on that. \u00a0 Also there is some training etc. \u00a0 Let&#8217;s say into 2017.<\/p>\n<p><strong>2. How would things work for those wishing to avail themselves of the services of this non-profit wing? A subscription model? Would this include both access to the thumper and use of perfusion chemicals?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yes something like a subscription model, then a cost covering payment when the person actually\u00a0needs to use the service.<\/p>\n<p><strong>3. How quickly could you get the unit to locations outside of Sydney in an emergency? Obviously in my case I&#8217;m most interested in Melbourne, but I&#8217;m guessing others may be interested in other locations&#8230; such as Perth.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We have a funeral director in Sydney who has some expertise and resources\u00a0in many of the things that are useful to cryonics.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>He is sympathetic to what we are doing.<\/li>\n<li>He has strong links with specific other funeral directors in the major cities around Australia.<\/li>\n<li>He has expertise in sending many\u00a0deceased people interstate\/overseas so he can handle paperwork\/regulations\/logistics etc. with minimal disruptions.<\/li>\n<li>He has done at least one cryonics patient in the past\u00a0that I know of but there could be more.<\/li>\n<li>He has the Ziegler type containers for air transport of deceased.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div>The process will go something like this. \u00a0Let&#8217;s assume the patient is in a hospital in say Melbourne (it could be Perth). \u00a0 \u00a0We would need at least 3 days notice. \u00a0The funeral director says that we would usually have this. \u00a0 Shorter times may work, but it gets increasingly difficult for a good final\u00a0suspension.\u00a0 \u00a0 Please also note that the below is really simplified and covers what we may consider a typical case. \u00a0We have looked at other scenarios, but let&#8217;s keep it simple so as\u00a0to not make this email book length. \u00a0 The below should give a patient a good final suspension.<\/div>\n<div>\n<ul>\n<li>Patient&#8217;s representative notifies cryonics contact or central\u00a0funeral director (in Sydney)\u00a0giving about 3 or more days notice<\/li>\n<li>Perfusion chemicals (as medical supplies)\u00a0immediately\u00a0ordered from US and express freighted to central funeral director.<\/li>\n<li>Central funeral director immediately\u00a0works with his satellite funeral director in other capital city. \u00a0 Ziegler, thumper, other equipment and stabilisation\u00a0chemicals sent to satellite funeral director by express flight.<\/li>\n<li>Satellite funeral director with equipment (and perhaps a private nurse, cryonics representatives and volunteers)\u00a0is on hand at hospital\u00a0when patient dies. \u00a0Obtains death certification and commences to apply various stabilisation\u00a0measures.<\/li>\n<li>Patient taken to satellite funeral director premises\u00a0and brought to just\u00a0above ice temperature (not frozen).<\/li>\n<li>Patient air\u00a0shipped to central funeral director in Sydney at just above ice temperature.<\/li>\n<li>Central funeral director does perfusion and brings patient\u00a0to dry ice temperature.<\/li>\n<li>Patient sent to US at dry ice temperature. \u00a0If SSA is operational and patient has arrangements with them, patient sent to SSA at dry ice temperature.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Some good questions were raised about what we are doing with standby and transportation.\u00a0 I try to answer them below.\u00a0 This is the summary I posted on the CAA site.\u00a0 I will expand and update over time. 1. 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